I am still not able to get sustained opperation from my current test rig.

http://www.algorithmicjazz.com/steorn/ocal2.html

I guess I will have to eat crow in saying that this would be easy.

I have tried many different rotor magnet angles (8 and 12 magnets) and different types of stators. The configuration in the top photo actually seems to work the best. Each of the 12 rotor magnets is an opposite polarity and the stator has the magnets offset.
I get a nice smooth AGW lock and sometimes I think I hear it holding it's speed for a couple of seconds, but then it starts to slow down. I am only able to get the rotor up to 200 RPM.
The diametrical field stator magnet may have a lot to do with getting the torque.
I might try to lighten my rotor some more. I would like to build one with the correct magnets, real bearings, lighter, and more precision.

STOP PRESS, CHEAP BEARINGS FOR REPLICATORS ONLY......

If anyone needs a cheap source of ss bearings, just go to a fishing reel shop and ask for there Junked reels, they might even give them to you... me, the guy knocked back the 20 dollars I offered for two reels, he said it was daylight robbery and would only take a fiver... :huge grin:

I walked away with 13 bearings between the two reels, not to mention a heap of ss screws and bronze bushes.... the one way device may prove interesting!

Good Luck.
JM

Without going into too much detail, I had a sustained rotor yesterday evening while fooling around around with the stators; The stators were not rotating but oscillating slightly (and with a rod mag attached to each stator - like i said i was tinkering!), the rotor was hand spooled and left to run down while i was doing something else..... strangely it held at around 300rpm. I will investigate further and keep a camera handy.

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Important result from page 135 of "Working Magnetic Motor on you tube" thread at overunity.com

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I tried the above experiment tonight with my wrong sized rotor. 9 mm distance from stator to rotor edge. Rotor 3/8" shorter than Jason's Cad drawing.

Did the above test. About 5 hours worth. I am waiting for a tach to arrive to confirm. I saw and heard the rotor accelerate almost every time. Sometimes for about 2 seconds, sometimes longer. Different configs gave me different results. Sometimes very long steady runs but no acceleration and sometimes accelerations. The first time it happened, I yelled. It scared me and I scared the wife! LOL It sounds like a little turbine. The mags shake first, and it feels like a pulse in the fingers holding the stators. And then you hear the reving sound for a couple of seconds and then it drops out.

Some runs caught two and three accelerations, at different RPM's, but that does not always happen, just random.

The rotor LOVE'S to see North and south looking at it at the same time. I had some wild configurations. And had Jason on the phone for hours. Rotor Magnets are N35's. Stator mags per spec. Cylinder mags on top of stators are N42's.

Experiment with what you have. Make sure your rotor mags are weaker. Hold the stator between the dampers and the one on the left. You can try all three once you get the hang of it. Spin the rotor clockwise very fast and off you go. You will know when "it" catches (what ever it is!)

Cylinder mags on Stator can face any way, as long as North or South are looking directly to the center rotor.

Have fun. I did. I will post a video when I find a friend with a vid camera, so be patient please. Nothing self sustained, though I did get some mighty long runs.

All of you naysayers are doomed! LOL

Cheers all,

Bruce
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Any congratulations and discussion should be on the appropriate thread.

Posted on Youtube by TPUBruce
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=l2ycczuFEF8

I downloaded it using videoget, the sound of the acceleration is much more pronounced when I play it in mplayerc

My apologies to Bruce, I missed the first video
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=HfDA7CCKYq0

http://urad.net/forums/WhiPMag/Bearing%20Permutations.xls

Here is the link to the last video I’ve uploaded on my youtube channel

http://it.youtube.com/watch?v=TRS4_3F4lpc

It's a collection of different setup pics and some infos about my replication rig plus couple of video cuts about the rig spinning in AGW sinch and generating if not enything else , at list some interesting audio with many frequency changes that will maybe interest those of you that are into sound spectrum analisis , sadly i have no data about the rpms since I don't have jet a tachometer.

Good luck everybody with your projects

Excellent Video Andrea.


Here is Some new Videos from me, these new Stator bearings taht arrived this weekend are great!

First big one for Yada, some sound samples.
< http://www.overunity.org.uk/ocpm/CLaNZeR-OCPM-YADA.wmv >

Or Youtube: < http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=D9v9ISMlj1g >


Next one shows how easy it is to latch into AGW, including all 3 stators going AGW at over 1500RPM.
< http://www.overunity.org.uk/ocpm/CLaNZeRSNewBearingsLatch.wmv >

Or Youtube: < http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=VE3aboJWhY0 >

New Rotor Dimensions, ummm why did I bother LOL.
< http://www.overunity.org.uk/ocpm/CLaNZeRSNew18mmRotor.wmv >

Or Youtube: < http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=9XG9MaLXVVg >

Sweet stuff mate
keep up the great work
Cheers
Andrea

Lissajous and other pics:

http://urad.net/forums/gallery/displayimage.php?album=1&pos=4

Test: Determine if variations in magnetic strength affect AGW sync.
Replaced 4 of the rotor magnets with two other sizes. Two 1" x 1/4" cylinders and two 1/4" x 1/4" rings. The configuration is such that all 4 of the 1/4" x 1/2" magnets are oriented in the same direction. Each of the other magnets has its duplicate positioned 180 degrees away for weight balance.

Results:
Scope wave forms confirm drastic differential in magnetic strength between positive poles. Negative poles remain relativly constant with minor fluctuations.
http://urad.net/forums/gallery/displayimage.php?album=1&pos=5
http://urad.net/forums/gallery/displayimage.php?album=1&pos=9
Stator AGW seems unaffected. Stator momentum remains constant as in other tests. No success in rotor acceleration.

Final OCMPMM Replication Video from me guys.

Spent enough time on this one and time too move onto the next Project.
Will keep the parts at hand, just incase AL comes forward again or someone hits Jackpot.

One thing you learn when messing around with others FE idea's is when too move on!

YouTube:

< http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZXX2f4-ojU >

Hi Res Direct Download:

< http://www.overunity.org.uk/ocpm/CLaNZeRSOCMPMMFinalVideo.wmv > (45meg)

My CONCLUSION on this: Not sure at the moment, too many factors that we do not know, but what I do know is that I shared a lot of stuff that I experimented with publicly and did hell of alot more that I did not have time too share. But still not even close to the weird effect shown on Alestalkin original video.

Right what's the next Project? :)

Cheers

Sean.

Right what's the next Project? :)

Cheers

Sean.

Talk to Al ?

jwk_13:


Talk to Al ?

Na done enough Wild Goose chases

Crazy boring rotor postions: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W_o08Il8mqk

New JR Replication Video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UuZdctoCJbc

OK replicators. Looks like Steorn has decided to unsticky this thread. But if you post your results frequently, we may be able to keep it on the front page.

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New video of JR Replication with one stator magnet and all bearings removed:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lUeE9364bLs

I am going to continue my conversations on fizzx.com since I am getting replies there.

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New Approach:
http://fizzx.com/viewtopic.php?p=2677#2677